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Lindsey NoLastname

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May 17, 2026, 12:41:00 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Ready

May 17, 2026, 12:41:19 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Hey Lindsey, saw you reached out to help with Sober Living, do you already have experience with real estate or looking to break into it?

May 17, 2026, 12:53:31 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I have experience and know properties in ohio

May 17, 2026, 1:35:34 PM UTC
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Toledo, Ohio

May 17, 2026, 1:35:42 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I grew up there. I saw that you said Ohio was a good area. I’m very interested in buying a home and making it a sober living home.

May 17, 2026, 1:36:22 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I own 8 properties in Toledo but they are all annual rentals

May 17, 2026, 1:37:19 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Yep Ohio definitely has strong potential

May 17, 2026, 3:30:23 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Out of curiosity, what drew you towards sober living?

May 17, 2026, 3:30:35 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I ran across your page and I had thought about doing it in the past. I had two very close family members on drugs in the past.

May 17, 2026, 3:35:17 PM UTC
ProspectOther

How do we connect?

May 17, 2026, 3:35:30 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Hope your family members are doing a lot better now🙏

May 17, 2026, 3:39:12 PM UTC
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Happy to talk to see how I can support

May 17, 2026, 3:39:30 PM UTC
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What do you feel like you need help with setting this up successfully?

May 17, 2026, 3:39:37 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Systems

May 17, 2026, 3:42:12 PM UTC
ProspectOther

A plan and systems

May 17, 2026, 3:42:21 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I have one who is amazing and the other is still on and off battling addiction. Heartbreaking

May 17, 2026, 3:42:50 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Can you elaborate more on any specific systems?

May 17, 2026, 3:42:53 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Strength to him, hope gets better fast

May 17, 2026, 3:43:17 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Who do I call for Licensing, you mentioned that in a post. Lease vs. listening, hiring a manager in site. There are so many things I dint even know to ask. Actually my step sister.

May 17, 2026, 3:44:22 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Understood!

May 17, 2026, 3:44:54 PM UTC
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It's ideal to have finances in a certain position to get this going smoothly. How much capital do you have set aside, liquid to invest into sober living and what's your credit score?

May 17, 2026, 3:45:04 PM UTC
ProspectOther

50k

May 17, 2026, 3:45:22 PM UTC
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I also have business lines of credit and credit cards and access to capital

May 17, 2026, 3:46:35 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I could bring on a partner if I needed more cash

May 17, 2026, 3:46:48 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Oh sweet, should be no problem getting a property

May 17, 2026, 3:46:59 PM UTC
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Why don't we do this, are you open to meeting with one of my partners to show you everything I do in greater detail? If things make sense and you want to move forward he’ll help in building out your step-by-step plan to get started and connect you with me

May 17, 2026, 3:47:05 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I also have great credit

May 17, 2026, 3:47:19 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I need to look at your master class this afternoon too. Once I read this and go through it I may have more questions.

May 17, 2026, 3:48:06 PM UTC
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For sure, the call would probably be tomorrow or day after, depending on availability so you can take the time to go through resources, get questions ready

May 17, 2026, 3:49:03 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Along with that, I'll send you a few more resources to help you get a better understandin

May 17, 2026, 3:49:22 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Sounds good?

May 17, 2026, 3:49:28 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Sounds great! Thank you!

May 17, 2026, 3:50:36 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

No worries!

May 17, 2026, 3:50:49 PM UTC
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Let me know your email and phone no.?

May 17, 2026, 3:50:55 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Lindsey@lindseyerdmann.com 9545910586

May 17, 2026, 3:51:13 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 3:51:15 PM UTC
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I live in Miami/Fort Lauderdale. How do you feel about Michigan?

May 17, 2026, 3:52:16 PM UTC
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Colorado, Michigan, CA, NYC are all one of the best markets out there

May 17, 2026, 3:54:11 PM UTC
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Ohio too

May 17, 2026, 3:54:15 PM UTC
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He can do 1pm or 5pm ET tomorrow or 2pm or 7pm on Tuesday

May 17, 2026, 3:55:32 PM UTC
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Will be an hour long over Zoom, need you on a laptop with a pen and paper, let me know which one works best?

May 17, 2026, 3:55:35 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Tuesday at 2:00. Who will I be speaking with?

May 17, 2026, 4:06:44 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Joshua, he's my partner

May 17, 2026, 4:06:55 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Will he try to sell me Coaching?

May 17, 2026, 4:06:57 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I just want to know what to expect

May 17, 2026, 4:07:20 PM UTC
ProspectOther

My best friend lives in Michigan and she is a Dr. we have been talking about doing some business and this is why I ask about Michigan. Detroit area

May 17, 2026, 4:07:57 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

I do have a mentorship, if that's something you want to explore but yea no, he's a pretty laid back guy, will try to help you the most as possible

May 17, 2026, 4:08:01 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Okay. Yeah, may I talk to him about Detroit and partners?

May 17, 2026, 4:08:56 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Yes sure

May 17, 2026, 4:09:18 PM UTC
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Let me know once you get the invite?

May 17, 2026, 4:09:24 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 4:09:31 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 4:09:32 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Finding the right markets! It’s key!

May 17, 2026, 4:09:34 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Pretty much anything that's relevant to the business, you can talk to him about that

May 17, 2026, 4:09:45 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Received! Thank you! I’m really looking. Forward to the call

May 17, 2026, 4:10:05 PM UTC
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No worries!

May 17, 2026, 4:10:28 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 4:10:36 PM UTC
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A deep-dive into the sober living business model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLZLlHuQcg Interview with Andrew, from a janitor making 30k/year all the way through to his first few 20k+ months with his first 5 homes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfyH0yPv4Y Sober Living Program Walkthrough: https://youtu.be/4CvRro66ZGU

May 17, 2026, 4:10:41 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Will do. I’m going to do this now

May 17, 2026, 4:11:55 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

2:00 P.M. for Eastern time?

May 17, 2026, 4:20:18 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 6:00:06 PM UTC
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Corect

May 17, 2026, 8:51:41 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Correct*

May 17, 2026, 8:52:07 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

TY

May 17, 2026, 9:05:07 PM UTC
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May 17, 2026, 10:00:30 PM UTC
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May 18, 2026, 6:00:19 AM UTC
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May 18, 2026, 6:02:41 PM UTC
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Do you have the Zoom link for our call?

May 18, 2026, 6:04:42 PM UTC
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May 18, 2026, 6:04:44 PM UTC
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May 18, 2026, 10:01:12 PM UTC
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Not yet

May 18, 2026, 10:17:27 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

I received a few emails.

May 18, 2026, 10:22:09 PM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 2:00:35 AM UTC
ProspectSMS

Don't see a zoom link. Can you text It?

May 19, 2026, 2:23:29 AM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 6:02:38 AM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 8:00:33 AM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 11:01:38 AM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 4:01:08 PM UTC
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Automated Reminder: Your ZOOM call with Sober Living Riches is in 2 hours at 11:00 AM  PDT. We just sent you an email with the zoom link (please check your junk/spam just in case). As a reminder, please join from a device with a large monitor so we can share our screen as we review your goals & potential income with sober living. Talk soon!

May 19, 2026, 4:01:10 PM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 5:59:01 PM UTC
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Automated Reminder: Your Zoom call with Sober Living Riches is starting now! We just sent you another email with all your appointment information & the zoom link. You can join here: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/8924530025?pwd=6BHdSP6I4Q89w8sHIceOPxcYYKGxC4.1

May 19, 2026, 5:59:02 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

https://whop.com/checkout/plan_6vq55d0DIdWMi

May 19, 2026, 6:42:39 PM UTC
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Josh

May 19, 2026, 6:51:41 PM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 7:12:15 PM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 7:12:18 PM UTC
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May 19, 2026, 7:12:19 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Hope you're good, how was your call with Joshua?

May 19, 2026, 7:14:17 PM UTC
ProspectOther

He is really nice guy! I enjoyed our cinversation.

May 19, 2026, 7:34:53 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Love to hear you had a great call, so what's the gameplan from here?

May 19, 2026, 7:46:03 PM UTC
ProspectOther

We made a follow up call and I am Goin to look through more of these videos and I want to have a convo with my friend this Weeknd.

May 19, 2026, 7:55:16 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Sounds good, let me know if you have any questions for me in the meantime

May 20, 2026, 3:47:49 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Will do!

May 20, 2026, 3:48:49 PM UTC
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May 22, 2026, 6:01:37 PM UTC
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May 22, 2026, 10:01:26 PM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 2:00:24 AM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 8:00:01 AM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 9:00:09 AM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 12:01:00 PM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 6:00:07 PM UTC
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May 23, 2026, 10:00:11 PM UTC
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May 24, 2026, 6:01:19 AM UTC
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May 24, 2026, 6:00:44 PM UTC
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Do you have the Zoom link for our call?

May 24, 2026, 6:02:45 PM UTC
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May 24, 2026, 6:02:47 PM UTC
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May 24, 2026, 10:01:44 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 1:21:40 AM UTC
Historical human replySMS

💪💪 Pumped to talk with you! Just emailed you this link with a little more info to review before our zoom call. Please make sure you review before we connect: https://go.soberlivingriches.com/appt-confirmation

May 25, 2026, 1:21:44 AM UTC
Historical outboundEmail

Thanks for confirming your call with us! PS: And here's the quick video to watch before the call: https://go.soberlivingriches.com/appt-confirmation

May 25, 2026, 1:21:44 AM UTC
ProspectSMS

I have to reschedule for later in the day.

May 25, 2026, 1:43:32 AM UTC
ProspectSMS

My flight was changed to 12:30

May 25, 2026, 1:43:37 AM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 2:00:01 AM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 6:00:29 AM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 8:00:43 AM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 11:01:13 AM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Does 9pm or 5pm EST work?

May 25, 2026, 1:56:02 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 2:24:48 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 2:25:34 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Hey Lindsey, this is Joshua's assistant from Andrew Lamb's team. Saw you need to reschedule your call for today, does 5pm or 9pm Eastern today work?

May 25, 2026, 2:27:06 PM UTC
Historical outboundEmail

5pm works, appreciate the heads up.

May 25, 2026, 3:25:27 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 3:25:50 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 3:25:51 PM UTC
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Do you have the Zoom link for our call?

May 25, 2026, 3:28:13 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 3:28:14 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

I don't think I'm gonna be able to do the call today my flight got switched to 3:30 Will not arrive until later than expected.

May 25, 2026, 4:24:57 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Appreciate the heads up, does 9pm EST work?

May 25, 2026, 4:40:50 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Or 5pm Eastern.

May 25, 2026, 4:41:07 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

5 pm. I will be in a plane

May 25, 2026, 4:41:48 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 7:01:15 PM UTC
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Automated Reminder: Your ZOOM call with Sober Living Riches is in 2 hours at 2:00 PM  PDT. We just sent you an email with the zoom link (please check your junk/spam just in case). As a reminder, please join from a device with a large monitor so we can share our screen as we review your goals & potential income with sober living. Talk soon!

May 25, 2026, 7:01:16 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

So you'll be in a plane at 5pm, I'll move it to 9pm instead

May 25, 2026, 7:23:12 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 7:23:29 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 7:23:30 PM UTC
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Do you have the Zoom link for our call?

May 25, 2026, 7:25:52 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 7:25:53 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

Not sure about 9:00 yet. Let me text when I land and see how I am feeling after traveling all day

May 25, 2026, 7:49:33 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Sounds good

May 25, 2026, 9:49:57 PM UTC
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May 25, 2026, 11:01:35 PM UTC
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Automated Reminder: Your ZOOM call with Sober Living Riches is in 2 hours at 6:00 PM  PDT. We just sent you an email with the zoom link (please check your junk/spam just in case). As a reminder, please join from a device with a large monitor so we can share our screen as we review your goals & potential income with sober living. Talk soon!

May 25, 2026, 11:01:36 PM UTC
ProspectSMS

I'm not back to my house. I am going to have to reschedule

May 26, 2026, 12:41:57 AM UTC
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May 26, 2026, 12:59:01 AM UTC
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Automated Reminder: Your Zoom call with Sober Living Riches is starting now! We just sent you another email with all your appointment information & the zoom link. You can join here: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/8924530025?pwd=6BHdSP6I4Q89w8sHIceOPxcYYKGxC4.1

May 26, 2026, 12:59:03 AM UTC
Historical human replySMS

All Good! We will reach out to get you back on my cal.

May 26, 2026, 1:00:49 AM UTC
ProspectOther

I was scheduled for a call yesterday. I was out of town all weekend and travel yesterday did not go as anticipated. Let me know when we can set up another call. Joshua said he was traveling for a few weeks? Do you show people how to raise money and advise on LLC partnerships structure if multiple people decide to invest?

May 26, 2026, 4:40:13 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I did a call before and it was terrible. I told Josh. I just want to know about the content. I’m not a beginner but I do know about real estate

May 26, 2026, 4:41:18 PM UTC
Revenue AI — SHADOW (not sent)

Fair enough. The content is a 6 month mentorship for starting, filling, and scaling a sober living home: a 6 week core course, a Skool community with 200+ members, weekly group coaching calls with Andrew, a 30+ hour recorded call vault, nationwide market research, NARR-style policy and procedure manual, license agreement and house rules templates, hiring docs, bonus launch calls, and a CSM after onboarding. Setting the last call aside, do you actually want to run a sober living home?

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Primary intent: objection

Intent strength: medium

Objective: isolate_objection

Objection type / stage: trust_or_skepticism / stated

Missing discovery context: Her motivation for pursuing sober living specifically, as opposed to the real estate investing she already does

Discovery prompt:

Offer positioning: validate_fit_then_call

Execution route: constrained_llm

Qualification status: unknown

Disqualification reason:

Verdict
Historical human replyOther

Yes, you can get access to the same lenders that I use

May 26, 2026, 4:41:50 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I want to know this is the right for me and that the coach I am assigned to is also has experience.

May 26, 2026, 4:41:51 PM UTC
Revenue AI — SHADOW (not sent)

Totally fair. On content, the program leans on nationwide market research resources and NARR-style docs and policy/procedure templates, and since requirements vary by state that's a big part of it. I can't speak to who you'd be assigned or their background, I don't have that info. Setting that aside for a sec, how convinced are you personally that sober living is the direction you want to go?

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Primary intent: objection

Intent strength: medium

Objective: isolate_objection

Objection type / stage: trust_or_skepticism / stated

Missing discovery context: Her motivation for pursuing sober living specifically

Discovery prompt:

Offer positioning: validate_fit_then_call

Execution route: constrained_llm

Qualification status: unknown

Disqualification reason:

Verdict
ProspectOther

Raise money not necessarily borrow. But would love to further discuss a few topics.

May 26, 2026, 4:50:26 PM UTC
Revenue AI — SHADOW (not sent)

Got it, raising vs borrowing are different things, and honestly I can't confirm what we cover on the raising side, that's something the advisor would walk through. Happy to line up a few topics for that. Setting the coach question aside for a sec, how sold are you on doing a sober living home yourself?

Details

Primary intent: interested_advancing

Intent strength: medium

Objective: isolate_objection

Objection type / stage: trust_or_skepticism / stated

Missing discovery context: their motivation for pursuing sober living specifically

Discovery prompt:

Offer positioning: validate_fit_then_call

Execution route: constrained_llm

Qualification status: unknown

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Historical human replyOther

Pardon me, can you elaborate on what you mean by the call was terrible, since earlier you said you enjoyed the conversation. That's not the experience I want you to have working with me.

May 26, 2026, 4:58:33 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Oh I’m sorry, that was a typo.

May 26, 2026, 4:58:58 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I did a paid/internship before not a call*

May 26, 2026, 5:00:49 PM UTC
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No reply drafted — routed to human_review instead.

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Primary intent: question

Intent strength: low

Objective: hold_for_human

Objection type / stage: trust_or_skepticism / stated

Missing discovery context: their credit score, as a specific number

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Execution route: human_review

Qualification status: unknown

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Verdict
ProspectOther

Josh was great

May 26, 2026, 5:00:57 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

All good😅

May 26, 2026, 5:04:37 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

What went wrong with the previous internship you did?

May 26, 2026, 5:05:01 PM UTC
ProspectOther

It’s was essentially a program that connected you with out of state contractors and realtors to help you buy renovate and flip… Like a one stop shop. What went wrong? They were sending properties that were only going to profit 10k. It was lower end areas and I just did not feel comfortable because this was not how I invested previously. I did not ask the correct questions etc before signing up.

May 26, 2026, 5:15:13 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I did not trust the contractor and the realtor they linked me up with not experienced.

May 26, 2026, 5:15:57 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Makes sense, I'd assume with this venture you want to avoid those perhaps the questions that adds up. All my current coaches have been students of mine for a long time, given that one of them was my most successful student so far. We have attorneys who can advise on entity structures, not something I do personally, since it would be unlawful.

May 26, 2026, 5:27:58 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

What other questions do you have?

May 26, 2026, 5:29:17 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I know you are not an attorney.

May 26, 2026, 5:29:20 PM UTC
ProspectOther

Was asking if this was part of your course.

May 26, 2026, 5:29:44 PM UTC
ProspectOther

I don’t know what I don’t know to ask, if this makes sense.

May 26, 2026, 5:30:02 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Yes it is

May 26, 2026, 5:30:06 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Do you feel like you need to ask more questions haha or is this the right path for you?

May 26, 2026, 5:31:38 PM UTC
Historical human replyOther

Did you miss this?

May 29, 2026, 4:49:23 PM UTC
Historical human replySMS

Hey Lindsey. This is Christian with Sober Living Riches. It's been awhile since you spoke with our team. How're things going these days?

Jul 19, 2026, 3:06:22 PM UTC